Friday, February 5, 2010

Religion: The majority of people are wrong about belief; true/false?

Not all the religions of the world can be right, therefore the majority of them must be wrong. Indeed nearly all religions have the prerequisite that they are the only religion, that even if one was correct, the remark can be made that, in general, the majority of people believe something which is not true.





Is this argument justified? What are the possible flaws?Religion: The majority of people are wrong about belief; true/false?
I think it's logically sound.





The statement, ';nearly all religions have the prerequisite that they are the only religion'; isn't worded correctly. I think you meant to say, ';nearly all religions believe that they are the only TRUE religion';.





That's not a prerequisite, properly speaking, and of course, the qualifier ';TRUE'; needs to be included. I don't think there are very many religions that deny the EXISTENCE of other religions, rather, they deny their truth.





Kudos on not spouting the fashionable nonsense that ';all religions teach the same thing';. A more idiotic statement about religion would be hard to find!





Also, the poster who said that you can prove them all wrong if you 'take it one step farther' is wrong. That can't be done by simple logic. You must examine the evidence for each one. You are correct that they cannot ALL be true, and they MAY all be false, but it is logically possible that ONE is true. Whether any IS, is a matter of evidence, not logic.Religion: The majority of people are wrong about belief; true/false?
There is a story told of three blind men coming across an elephant. One feels a thick leg and declares that the creature is round and tall like a tree. Another feels the flexible trunk and decides it is a kind of snake. The last feels the tough, thick hide and concludes it is most like a wall.





All the men were right that there is a creature there... and even that it's a single creature in spite of all its different attributes. They were also all wrong in that they believed their observations were exclusively correct. This is just one possible scenario.





So you are fairly close. It is true that every belief of every religion cannot simultaneously be true. It is probably not true, however, that a single error in any religion completely invalidates any other notions it may have, much less all of them.





Nor does even every major religion holds that it is the exclusive purveyor of Truth: most varieties of Hinduism are polytheistic and it's not unusual for Buddhists to cite prophets of other faiths with the same reverence as those of their own. Peace.
Your argument is justified. Axiomatically it follows from the belief that most religions have that they are the TRUE religion since the majority of the world doesn't follow one religion. Of course, it doesn't change the truth value of the religion, which could be true or false, since truth is not same as majority consensus. It is, however, a great counter to Pascal's wager since it makes his wager much more problematic.
The flaw is what you mean by religion. Is it defined by the specific rituals, chants, prayers, that various denominations get up to? Whether their pictures of heaven and God are accurate? Or is religion just any belief in a supernatural realm? I think the latter.





I am an atheist. If the FSM or a god in any shape or form, or an angel or demon, appeared to me; and if I was sure I was NOT hallucinating, you think I would go to my christian friends and say: ';Ha! You were wrong. God looks nothing like you thought!';? No, I would have the intergity to become a believer and admit that they were ALL more right than me: Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Zoroastrians etc. ALL the religions are different ways of looking at the same thing. If there is a spirit world, then as far as I'm concerned, I would count them all right. But if there isn't, then they are all wrong.
Most people use religion in order to search for or grow into a relationship and/or knowledge of a supreme being. To say one religion is ';wrong'; is like saying one runner in a race is ';wrong'; because he is not as close to the finish line as another. So ';closer and farther'; may be better terms to use than ';right and wrong';. Of course, every religion believes that they are closer to the truth which tempts them to say they are right and everyone else is wrong.
Religion is about trusting that a supreme being exist and has powers to create and destroy the world. Has set us rules of existence that if we follow will lead us to heaven( or a better place ) after death.





Religion is all about trust. Therefore there can never be a true or false religion, considering that it is not based on the absolute truth.
To me, religion is a belief. Since it is a belief no one persons religion is wrong because anybody can believe whatever they want that is why we all have our own minds and what makes us unique individuals. Religions are just different groups of people getting together because the share beliefs and sometimes want others to believe what they hold as true.
Your question ';The majority of people etc..'; I believe is a true statement





The arguement is false. All religions of the world are wrong in some way or the other. There is an assumption being left that some are right. Each have points that are correct and incorrect.





All going back to the original question...
That does not mean the religions are wrong. Each person must in thier own way find thier own religion. Because we are so different there are many religions. I think the most important thing is faith- not what church you go to.
Yep I guess that makes sense, although that staement may no longer be true in a few years time, people are becoming more clued up and today there are more Atheists and Agnostics on the world than there ever was!
It is indeed logically correct, there are no errors.





Go one step further and you can see there are ALL wrong.






correct.

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