Thursday, February 11, 2010

Jehovahs Witnesses,don't you realize that the Watchtower Society is a False Prophet?

They have set many dates:1874,1878,1914,1915,1918,1920,1925…


The Bible states that if a Prophecy follows not nor comes to pass that it was a False Prophecy(Deuteronomy 18:20-22)...The Watchtower has proven itself to be a False Prophet time and time again.Jehovahs Witnesses,don't you realize that the Watchtower Society is a False Prophet?
oh this again. how many times do we have to answer this stuff. i wonder why you have to go back in history every time to have a go at us.


we have never ever ever ever ever said we are prophets and never ever ever ever will. we have never ever said and no JW from the WT has said they are inspired and never will. you obviously dont read the whole article on these because they dont say anything dogmatic why ppl think they do i dont know its crazy.


we have made some errors like anyone else and the WT have admitted that what is the problem.


if you ppl have to go into history to find nitpicking faults i think its laughable.Jehovahs Witnesses,don't you realize that the Watchtower Society is a False Prophet?
Not at all. Your accusations are presented without context and are inaccurate.





If you're thoroughly familiar with the Bible you will be aware of the passage of scripture in 1 Chronicles 17:1-4 (New International Version) ';After David was settled in his palace, he said to Nathan the prophet, ‘Here I am, living in a palace of cedar, while the ark of the covenant of the Lord is under a tent.' Nathan replied to David, ‘Whatever you have in mind, do it, for God is with you.' That night the word of God came to Nathan, saying: ‘Go and tell my servant David, ';This is what the Lord says: ‘You are not the one to build me a house to dwell in'';' Verse 15 adds, ';Nathan reported David all the words of this entire revelation.'; The prophet had to reverse himself. The future activities that David had in mind and which the prophet Nathan was sure was in God's mind were not at all true.





Does this mean Nathan was a false prophet? not at all.





Really you do yourself and others that make the same accusations over and over a disservice.
false Prophets? LOL


You mean the WT told ';Past truths';.


They have since gained new light and have changed their minds on certain issues including the end of the system of things.





NO JW will, admit that the WT is a false prophet even though everyone can see it for what it is - a money making scam, a business, a corporation.





You cannot be a JW without honouring the WT, and following it's word.


It's parallel to their dodgy bible.


And must be used in conjunction with their bible.





It has warned us not to read the bible alone.





So - does that mean one can only be guided by the holy spirit whilst holding a copy of the WT?





The fact that a JW will go door to door distributing copies of the Wt makes them false prophets too.
I wonder, if you had to be somewhere 2000 miles away ... somewhere you'd never been but it was a matter of life and death you get there. Now you are NOT the driver. You are a passenger in a car with someone else enroute to the same destination. The question is, with a trip that important, would you prefer to have a driver who bullheadedly stays on the road he's chosen, even in the face of evidence that he is going in the wrong direction? Or would you rather be with a driver who checks his map periodically and humbly makes a course correction when he realizes he's made a mistake?
Although I appreciate your concern, what you are stating is not true. The Watchtower has been vigilant about keeping an eye out for the fulfillment of certain Bible prophecies that would mark the end of some things and the beginning of others. The Watchtower has NEVER claimed to be a prophet able to look into the future and say exactly what would occur, when and how. We have 'set' no dates as you claim. 1914 is a year that signified the beginning of Christ rule in the heavens, and the Watchtower did recognize this. Some in the organization (not all) did also 'expect' other things to happen during this time period, but due to eager anticipation and have not a completely developed understanding of things, things did not occur as 'some' would have expected. However, there is a very big difference in 'expecting' a certain thing to come, and saying 'IT WILL HAPPEN ON THIS DATE WITHOUT A DOUBT'.





The Watchtower is not a false prophet, it is the only organization that has distinguished certain Bible truths AND acted accordingly. You should also feel that the Disciples and Apostles of Christ were also 'false prophets' because they also had a false expectations in regards to Jesus and his Kingdom. They thought or 'expected' it to be set up on Earth with him taking over as a Political King. The same Watchtower organization you denounce is also the same one that has correctly discerned that certain practice (Christmas, Political Involvement, Birthday Celebrations etc) are unscriptural. But these things were discerned YEARS ago. But how many other religious organizations claiming to be Christian still participate, support or allow such practices??? So at any rate the Watchtower Society would STILL be leaps and bounds beyond others in regards to Bible discernment and understanding.


The Watchtower Society is also the only organization that is fully involved in promoting the interest of God's Kingdom as Jesus did. (Matthew 28:19,20) All Christians received that same command to preach from Christ, yet how many do this??? Again the Watchtower would STILL be leaps and bounds beyond others in this regard.


John 17:16 shows that Jesus disciples are 'no part' of the world. We do not get involved in politics or nationalism, we remain neutral just as Jesus did. But just for one example, in 1933 the Vatican signed a Concordat (agreement) with Nazi Germany, which subsequently gave Hitler a clear path and allowed him to achieve his wicked ends. Jehovah's Witnesses however were persecuted WITH the Jews, not just because of racial connections, but rather because of our 'neutral' stance in regards to governments. So again, the Watchtower Society would STILL be leaps and bounds beyond others in this regard. So contrary to your claims, the Watchtower has only proven itself to be a tool in the hands of Jehovah God used to carry out his will and spread accurate knowledge about him and his purpose for mankind.
@sunriseslots ---You and anyone who gave you thumbs up are either bold-faced liars or you haven't researched! (I refuse to continue to water it down)





*** w52 4/15 p. 254 par. 21 Aids for Understanding Prophecy ***





No amount of persecution will deter the modern PROPHETS of God from fulfilling their commission as a cloud of witnesses to the supremacy of Jehovah God.





*** w72 4/1 p. 197 ‘They Shall Know that a Prophet Was Among Them’ ***





God....had a “PROPHET” to warn them. This “PROPHET” was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah’s Christian witnesses.





*** g86 6/8 p. 9 “Would That All Were Prophets!” ***





You will be interested to learn that God has on earth a people, all of whom are PROPHETS, or witnesses for God. In fact, they are known throughout the world as Jehovah’s Witnesses.








The organization has gotten smart and they no longer refer to themselves as prophets (at least no in print). (Probably because they got tired of being called false prophets)
you should know by now this is the big joke in this YA, reason we do no take them seriously anymore.


BTW, JW seems not to preach the failed prophecy dates nowadays since their last convention; but you will start reading things like coming of 'new lights' . Their lightbulbs bursted a long time ago and need a new one??


Read Iamnot carefully and you will have a good laugh for the day. LOL
You should realize that your ';question'; is a false assumption and a false opinion.





The dates were expectations, not prophecies.





Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe that the gift of prophecy exists today. Therefore, we cannot make prophecies.





What we do is try to understand the prophecies made by God and by the Lord Jesus Christ, as recorded in the Bible. God's prophecies. Christ's prophecies.





We have sometimes misunderstood God's prophecies, and we have honestly admitted to that.





But we don't forget about God's prophecies. We don't forget about Jesus' prophecies.





And we continue to ';keep on the watch.';





http://jehovah.to/xlation/fp.html





http://www.jehovah.to/exe/general/prophe…





http://pastorrussell.blogspot.com/2009/0…
no. we do not 'realize' such a thing.





do you have something better?





we tell folks to not kill, abort or commit homosex or adultery.





do you?





we tell people that the dead will be resurrected;


that god's original purpose will be realized, and the earth


will be perfect, as when adam failed and died.





do you?





we present the name of the son of god, Jesus christ


and the name of the fathe of Jesus christ, Jehovah.





do you?








so.





messing up a few dates? so what.





will the stuff presented be here? you betcha. it is going to happen.





when?





not for us to know ..... yet.








so.





what do you have that is clean, christ fearing and bible obeying?





you're on.





gramps
Well maybe that's good then. I have nothing against the Jehovah Witnesses, I do have some that are friends. But I find it dangerous when people try to make too many predictions, especially the end of times prophecy or Kingdom Come. Good question.
we know even if they dont..


google kingdom of the cults
There is nothing in Deut. 18:20-22 about “claiming inspiration.” It says ONLY that the prophet CLAIMS TO SPEAK IN JEHOVAH'S NAME: “’But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.' You may say in your heart, 'How will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?' When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.”





Has the Watchtower ever claimed to speak in Jehovah’s name? Many times. Right now in front of me, I have the book “The Nations Shall Know that I am Jehovah—How?” It is a first edition, copy written in 1971.





In the chapter “Commissioned to Speak in the Divine Name,” on pages 58-59, this book says, “So it is with the modern-day counterpart of Ezekiel: it is, not one person’s body, but a composite body, made up of many members. All these members were together to do the will of Jehovah, who is the Creator of this modern “Ezekiel.” Who, then, are the group of persons who, toward the beginning of this ‘time of the end,’ WERE COMMISSIONED TO SERVE AS THE MOUTHPIECE AND ACTIVE AGENT OF JEHOVAH? In order to determine this, check the history of 1919…”





Page 62: “They were a small minority group of men and women who had dedicated themselves to Jehovah as God by following in the footsteps of his Son Jesus Christ…After years of waiting they felt that attention had been paid to their desire when the book entitled “The Finished Mystery” was published…by the Watch Tower Bible %26amp; Tract Society.”





On page 70, they continue: “Likewise, it was a trying mission upon which the modern Ezekiel class was sent, to religious people of the same type as those in Ezekiel’s day. But regardless of how Christendom views or regards this group of ANOINTED witnesses of Jehovah, the time must come, and that shortly, WHEN THOSE MAKING UP CHRISTENDOM WILL KNOW THAT REALLY A ‘PROPHET’ OF JEHOVAH WAS AMONG THEM.”





You can’t get much plainer than that.





Ironically, in this very same publication, I have so far found one failed prophecy, beginning on page 216:





“Shortly, WITHIN OUR TWENTIETH CENTURY, the ‘battle in the day of Jehovah’ WILL BEGIN against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom…However, Jehovah’s ‘sword’ will not be applied merely to those adhering to Christendom. It will also be brandished against ‘all flesh from south [Christendom] to north.’ Religionists belonging to all the rest of the world empire of false religion will feel the cutting edge of Jehovah’s ‘sword.’ Their being non-Christians will not cause them to be spared. They will not be left to gloat over the destruction of Christendom as a rival religious system.”





Now I have some questions: Did the twentieth century witness the Battle of Armageddon…did it come and I missed it? Did the twentieth century witness the destruction of Christendom and all other religions as well as non-Christians, and I missed it?





This, friends, was a false prophecy, and the WTBTS are false prophets.





[Edit--one other thing worth mentioning here, without having to dig up old WT quotes. Remember the Society's publication titled ';Millions Now Living Will Never Die?'; That was written and published in the 1919-1920 time frame. According to the publication I mentioned above, the WTBTS claimed to be a prophet, a ';modern-day counterpart of Ezekiel'; at that time. So, is that a true prediction or did that fail? It failed, because there are not millions of people from 1920 who are going to live through Armageddon according to the Watchtower viewpoint. There are not millions today who are JWs who were alive in 1920. That is a prediction that failed and was definitely spoken at the time the WTBTS claimed to be commissioned to speak in Jehovah's name].
Even if it should delay keep in expectation of THE DAY OF JEHOVAH


The special period of time, not 24 hours, when Jehovah actively manifests himself against his enemies and in behalf of his people. With divine judgment executed against the wicked, Jehovah comes off victorious over his opposers during this “day.” It is also a time of salvation and deliverance for the righteous, the day in which Jehovah himself is highly exalted as the Supreme One. Thus, in a double way it is uniquely and exclusively Jehovah’s great day.


This day is detailed in the Scriptures as a time of battle, a great and fear-inspiring day of darkness and burning anger, a day of fury, distress, anguish, desolation, and alarm. “What, then, will the day of Jehovah mean to you people?” God asked wayward Israel by the mouth of his prophet Amos. This: “It will be darkness, and no light, just as when a man flees because of the lion, and the bear actually meets him; and as when he went into the house and supported his hand against the wall, and the serpent bit him.” (Am 5:18-20) Isaiah was told: “Look! The day of Jehovah itself is coming, cruel both with fury and with burning anger.” (Isa 13:9) “That day is a day of fury, a day of distress and of anguish, a day of storm and of desolation, a day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick gloom.” (Zep 1:15) During such a time of trouble, one’s money is absolutely worthless. “Into the streets they will throw their very silver . . . Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to deliver them in the day of Jehovah’s fury.”—Eze 7:19; Zep 1:18.


A sense of urgency is attached to the day of Jehovah by the prophets, who repeatedly warned of its nearness. “The great day of Jehovah is near. It is near, and there is a hurrying of it very much.” (Zep 1:14) “Alas for the day; because the day of Jehovah is near.” “Let all the inhabitants of the land get agitated; for the day of Jehovah is coming, for it is near!”—Joe 1:15; 2:1, 2.
I believe you help make up the Antichrist :)




















Wait...don't thumb me down, I'm going to write more later, and I want you to see it.
Set many dates for what?





Conventions?





And your proof is where?
who died and made YOU God?

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