Friday, February 5, 2010

Is possible to create false memories that you don't see as false?

Memories change somewhat, but can false memories be created? And believed as a true memory?Is possible to create false memories that you don't see as false?
Yes my daughter has left frontal lobe epilepsy and false autobiographical memories are not unheard of with this.





She believes she had a completely different childhood from the one she did have and NOTHING my son, her father, her friends, or me tells her makes any difference.





She claims the family photos, and photos of all the things we did are ';fake';. That they were all ';staged'; (for some reason) and not real.





To her her memories are as real as if they happened and she suffers because of it, as would anyone who had an abusive childhood. My son and her father and others dont understand this and get mad at her.





For me, it just breaks my heart to know she is suffering when it isnt real. I feel SO sorry for her, and for me because I love her with all my heart and would never ever have said the things she ';remembers'; me saying to her when she was little.





I wanted my little babies to have a magical safe childhood, we played together all the times, we did so many things together. I come from an abusive childhood and did everything possible to make my childrens childhood a really safe and happy place for them.





I told them over and over that they were loved and intelligent and beautiful and valued and the best thing in my life -- I was never too busy or too tired for them.





She ';borrowed'; her best friends childhood memories and somehow they became her own.





Its very sad, for her, for all of us and has created rifts in the family that we just cant seem to heal.Is possible to create false memories that you don't see as false?
Memory is so malleable that we should be very cautious in claiming certainty about any given memory without corroborative evidence.





Even the best of memories are constructions made in accordance with present needs, desires, influences, etc. Memories are always accompanied by feelings, emotions, and sometimes needs.





Studies have shown that false memories can be created by manipulating photos of well known historical events even.





These false images or doctored images can be used alter the memory of the event and affect beliefs and future behaviors





So it is not only possible but probable.
I think a false memory can be created by perception. My sister is only 13 months younger than me. We lived under the same roof and shared the same bedroom for years and years. It's interesting to talk to her about our childhood. Her memories are not at all like mine although we were as close as 2 sisters could be. I've often wondered how her childhood could be so different but now I realize she perceived things in another way. She doesn't remember having a happy childhood and I had a wonderful one. Our memories are similarbut the details are very different.
I don't know what the medical text books say, but from experience


with a late mother in law, my mother, one of my aunts, and my


daughter, I know it to be true. I know as we age, we can have vivid


dreams to the extent that some or a part of them, can be carried


over into our subconscious and we later can become confused that


what we dreampt is reality from our past. Our daughter proves this


time after time as she recalls her childhood. She doesn't think she's


remembering wrong, she feels we are. Unfortunately, her husband


believes what she tells him. So we often tread on eggshells or we


don't see much of them period. That's the best way to avoid conflict.


My late mother in law was always spreading the worst stories


about me, so I was told anyway. And she would tell my husband


and I how she had been verbally abused by some in her family.


We finally had to not pay attention to her rants as she proved to be


certifiably crazy, according to a doctor who did confide with her son,


my husband. It wasn't professional of him, but it did help to know.
I believe so, yes.





Joyce made a good point our minds are powerful....and creating or recreating memories is in many instances a defense mechanism. It is possible that the reality is too painful or upsetting and thus our minds come up with something we are more able to grasp and come to terms with. *** And it is soooo about perception, the way we perceive incidents is specific to each of us as individuals.


(IE) My brother and I grew up in the same home with the same parents, he has memories of a delightful childhood, I on the other hand remember the dinner plates flying across the room LOL.


As well there are some of us are more observant of underlying issues, more perceptive and sensitive. We try to work things out in our psyche that we can deal with....sometime things become ';your truth'; vs. the truth that others see.


Yes, the mind is complicated and powerful, in the end I think it has to do with self preservation.
Yes, this has been proven. Young children seem particularly susceptible to it, particularly if an authority figure or loved one keeps trying to convince them that it actually happened.


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The human mind is an amazing thing Three people may witness the same incident, and a week later when questioned, all three will tell about it differently. . . Perception is in the eye of the beholder . Dreams sometimes seem so real also. We can confuse them with the actual reality. As we age, the memories can get scrambled up in our minds. I will remember my son doing something, and my daughter will tell me no mom, that was your grandson who did it, not your son. Oh well, at least I remembered it did happen !
Yes it is and i think many things factor into what we remember.


Our perspective is influenced by our age. Our experiences. Our general outlook on life. And what info we have at hand in order to evaluate what we are experiencing.


I raised 6 children. I remember mostly all the responsibilities I had . From morning to night it was one thing after another.


Not too long ago I ask my eldest child what it was like. Did he feel he had his needs met by me or was I too busy. He didn't have the same experience that I remember at all. He said it was great. He said he didn't have the same concerns I had and thought it was lots of fun!
Absolutely and everybody does it. It helps us to fill in the blank spaces of information we do not have. If it seems right it must have happened that way. Also, if something is so unacceptable your mind cannot accept it, something else will replace it or leave a void to be filled in. Think about it, it can be scary.
A false memory is one that it is believed to be true, but that is actually false, and results from a confusion or combination of actual memories. It isn't usually made up of events that are independent of real memories.
I think so. I believe the mind can conjure up anything if you try hard enough. One example are people that have murdered and have totally convinced themselves they are totally innocent, and truly do 'believe' it, when actually they are guilty.
Earlier a question was asked about the strings of onions sold from a bike. I went to answer it in the positive then realised the memory must have come from pictures as I couldn't place a time or location in real life.
Yes I think they can they can hear a story and pretty soon they think it happened to them, I have a nephew who does this, He will tell something that happened to me or someone else as if it happened to him and he really believe it did..
My husband's memory is failing so he will tell a story which I know isn't right but say nothing and he will repeat it to other people. He really believes what he is saying has happened how he remembers it.
I think so, have you ever noticed when a loved one passes away, you don't remember anything bad or aggravating they did, but only the good memories.
Psychologist and other mental health specialist have instilling ideas into peoples heads for years ... take the numerous cases of alleged sexual abuse as a child that never really happened. It's possible.
Yes, I have known/know many compulsive liars and over the years and they all create a fictitious history of their past and take the accomplishments of others and
I don,t think they are created as such,more likely distorted through natural ageing process my friend.
You can believe what you want to believe, but i don;t call it a ';false'; memory, just a convenient lie
Yes, I think that some people remember childhood dreams and convert them to false memories of real events.
Yes they can.It's quite common. People do this and don't realize it.
Yeah my mother has selective memory of the past, but since she is ill now, I let it slide.
Yes, I believe many people want to believe things.

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